Who are these people? (2)

REVISION: I found another photograph of the “Wilson” session (photo b-2)

I managed to scan some more photos from the Otto Flückiger collection that carry no caption. If anyone knows or would have an idea who these musicians are, I’d be glad to hear from you.

So here we go with installment No 2.

Photo a) features an unknown band:

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This photo might have been taken in Detroit, else I do not know anything about his band.

Next up are seven photogaphs taken at a jam session at an unidentified location, probably in the seventies or early eighties. I am a little embarassed, since I have the feeling I should know more than one of these people. But up to now I could not come up with any names.

Photo b):

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Loren Schonberg says that the guitarist on this photo looks very much like Lawrence Lucie. Comparing to (admittedly a lot older) photos of Lucie, I think Loren is right. The bass player (what exactly is he playing there?) does look very familiar. Note the writing on the bass drum, I guess Mr. Wilson’s first name must be rather short to make the typography on the drum look good.

Two days after I put the photo above on the blog, I found another photograph with the same people as above. This one was in a different box.

Photo b-2):

In my eyes, photo b-2 does support that it’s Lawrence Lucie playing guitar here.

Photo c):

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While the (cut-off) drummer seems to be the same man as on photo a), we have another guitarist and a new man at the keyboard.

Photo d):

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Photo d) shows two trumpeters at the same time and location. Loren Schonberg thinks that the left man may be Joe Thomas – which could well be. I could only compare it to photos of Joe Thomas that were taken 20, 30 years earlier. I have the feeling that the trumpeter on the right is also a rather well known man … And yes, even the lady on the right looks familiar to me.

Photo e):

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Photo e) shows a different drummer.

Photo f):

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This one introduces a new guitar man, a new piano player and a tenor saxist.

Photo g): IDENTIFIED!

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Bob Porter has identified Willis Jackson on this photo. And he is definitely right, Jackson wears the same jacket on the cover of his 1975 Atlantic LP “The Way We Were”:

Photo h):

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Photo h) shows an unidentified trombonist, most probably photographed on the same occasion as the six photos above.

Finally here’s photo which is entirely unrelated to the others in this post.

Photo j): IDENTIFIED!

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Photo j) has been identified by Loren Schonberg (“I played with these guys”) as showing a configuration of the Al Vollmer Harlem Blues & Jazz Band: George James (as), Gene Rodgers (p), Johnny Williams (b), Bobby Williams (tp) and Tommy Benford (dr). Indeed, the guitar player looks like Al Casey. So can anyone identify the location?

Any hints regarding all these photos are very much welcome.

Who are these people?

REVISION: I received a lot of suggestions regarding the identity of these musicians. I have decided to put them up below without posting a new post

In the vast archives of Otto Flückiger I found a box with small photos and reproductions. None of these carry any information about the people pictured. I could identify some of bands and orchestras, but a whole lot wait to be identified. For example here we have an unidentified Lounge band:

It has been suggested that the pianist on the above photo is Elmer Gill. I have to admit he has a slight resemblance, but although Otto Flückiger knew him well, I doubt it’s him. The bass player has been suggested as being Jimmy Butts (“for sure”) on this and the next photo (apparently featuring the same bass player):

NOTE (November 6 2011); The people on this photo have been identified. I am leaving the text below for historical reasons.

It has been suggested that the above five are The Harlemaires, a Philadelphia group that recorded for Atlantic in November and December 1947. The bassist would be Percy Joell, the pianist Chester Slater, the drummer Dottie Smith, and the guitarist to the right Billy Butler whereas the left guitar player is unidentified. Vocal group specialist Marv Goldberg very much doubts that these are The Harlemaires though – “The faces really don’t match up too well”. Strangely enough, Goldberg says that the guitarist on the left looks a little like Billy Butler though. As mentioned above, the bass player has been suggested as being Jimmy Butts.

There are several photos of different bands with Dottie Hill on Marvin Goldbergs site, on some she resembles the drummer pictured above, on some she doesn’t!

finally here are eight musicians from an unidentified large band. This photo is most probably not related to the first two:

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I received a lot of suggestions for the tenor sax player. Here are my comments:

Hal Singer: There is a resemblance, yes. But comparing this to other old photos of Singer, it does not seem it’s Singer after all.

George Clarke: Resemblance is bigger than with Singer, but not 100%

Big Nick Nicholas: I could not find any vintage Big Nick Nicholas photos to compare with.

Al Sears: Hard to say, because he almost always wore glasses on photos from that time. Al Sears seems to have a rounder face though than the man on the photo above.

Other persons suggested by the person who suggested Al Sears are: Billy Taylor, Rudy Powell, Shad Collins,  and (hidden behind Powell and Collins) Danny Barker. Note though, that the person in the picture seems to be a drummer, not a guitar player.

So, do we have anymore suggestions?